Hehe, Vlad, you`ll give up to also others, just wait to see 5-6 payment terms coming and going without changes in your paypal account. :-)
Chee Kui
· 2 years ago
Guess what... I have removed their badge long time ago ;) Yeah I don't think it's worth the time and effort. I got lots of pending applications too. It sucks!
VC
· 2 years ago
Vlad,
I'm curious whether this feedback is due to low RMP conversions (just one of PPP's affiliate programs) or because of quantity of opps available thru PPP's marketplace vs. elsewhere. There are plenty of ways RMP could improve, but I currently see 150+ opps in my qualified list (and 200+ overall). Are you seeing more elsewhere?
I also noticed you're not using PPP Direct on your Advertise page. Any feedback why you'd give up 100% markups for essentially a direct deal instead of PPP Direct's 10%?
All thoughts appreciated...
Vlad
· 2 years ago
@Chee and Valeting thanks for stopping by!
@VC
Yes PPP maybe has more opportunities but the opportunities on other websites are of better quality. Anyway affiliate program only one factor (bu a huge one for me) why I quit PPP.
Here is why. I am an affiliate first and then blogger. If I had referred 8 leads to let say Lending Tree I would have had about $500 in my pocket. On the par with other affiliate programs I work with PPP is giving me the least incentive.
Also, I think they care more about the advertisers than the bloggers. I understand that, that's how money are being made in this world. But they need to listen once in a while to an "average Joe" like myself.
Another thing is this. If you see what the top bloggers have earned collectively since PPP went live you will see that amount is under $200,000 - in my opinion this does not justify multi million funding, I would be a little worried if I was an investor.
I do like the company and have defended them on one occasion after reading some really stupid stuff on TechCrunch. Now I just think the TechChrunch negative reviews of PPP was a part of big publicity stunt.
Vlad
· 2 years ago
@VC
Dan I did not realize it was you when I answered above. Since you probably see or get in touch with Ted, why don't you pass onto him this post? ;)
I know I am just toying with you.... I am too small of a fish for you guys. ;)
VC
· 2 years ago
yeah, sorry about that Vlad. I'm playing wih some other siglink anchor text periodically.
I will definitely share this feedback. Ted and I have discussed RMP many times and the conversions need to be streamlined. No arguments there. There is a lot of opportunity on the PPP affiliate side and feedback is being heard.
I was surprised about your take on the opps side though. PPP has the most advertisers in the industry, and even if you didn't like marketplace opps that's no reason to give away 100% markups on your Advertise page. PPP Direct doesn't require you to remove yourself from other marketplaces, but makes the process more trusted/efficient for you and sponsors. Give the PPP Direct widget a try, even if just side-by-side with others...
Vlad
· 2 years ago
Dan,
I am not sure if paid reviews are for me. The RPM button was promising for a "viral" sign ups. I have had an opportunity to get one deal via PPP Direct.
As opps go, Sponsored Reviews has some advertisers that are willing to pay bigger money for the reviews.
What I do not understand about the sign up process, and that no one takes an action about it, is the fact that PPP may loose some great bloggers, unless I am being cheated and those referred by me are already writing paid reviews. In either case, PPP should fix it or eliminate their affiliate program.
Scarlett Tarjick
· 2 years ago
Sorry you didn't have much luck with PayPerPost. However, if you get a chance,you should check us out here at Linkworth. We have a product called linkpost. It is paid blogging about our advertisers and we are always in need of additional publishers within our database for this product. Hope you get to check us out. linkworth.com
Aaron Cook
· 2 years ago
I agree here 100%. I think PPP's referral program is the pits. Never have I seen such a pathetic conversion rate and such poor follow-up by the company.
Here are my current stats to give you an idea:
Regular Referrals: 20 Review My Post Referrals: 40 Total referrals: 60 Total hits: 258 Total income: $600
Ah, but here's the issue of PPP's amazingly crappy conversion. How many of them are still pending? Answer: ALL OF THEM! That's right, since May I've sent them 60 referrals and not one has converted into a payment of any sort! And these are real people who signed up. I know, because the only place I ever advertised PPP was on my blog.
I've made good money with referral programs over the years and have to rate PPP's to be the absolute worst I've ever used. Without a doubt.
Shine on, Aaron
Vlad
· 2 years ago
Aaron,
I think they should have never implement affiliate program in the first place. I though that at least regular referrals are converting for some one, but your comments indicates to the contrary, or that the bloggers you have sent them are not that excited about opportunities available to them because your referrals will qualify as valid when the new blogger takes on the opportunity and has his post approved or something like that....
I hope they read posts like this as well and make adjustments for their own good.
VC
· 2 years ago
Vlad & Aaron:
I've requested greater reporting beyond "pending" and I know the team is working on a variety of site/affiliate enhancements. At the end of the day PPP is paying for active referrals (not just curious signups), but just getting more granularity than "pending" would help understand status and allow affiliates to encourage conversion themselves.
I'm intrigued by your focus/expertise on referrals (as opposed to PPP's core business) and would love to get your prioritized top 5-10 suggestions for making PPP affiliate programs better. If interested, shoot me your thoughts at dan*at*inflexionvc*d0t*com. And, yes, Andy I'd love yours too for an affiliate expert triumverate of input. No promises, but I'm interested in the wisdom...
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I'm curious whether this feedback is due to low RMP conversions (just one of PPP's affiliate programs) or because of quantity of opps available thru PPP's marketplace vs. elsewhere. There are plenty of ways RMP could improve, but I currently see 150+ opps in my qualified list (and 200+ overall). Are you seeing more elsewhere?
I also noticed you're not using PPP Direct on your Advertise page. Any feedback why you'd give up 100% markups for essentially a direct deal instead of PPP Direct's 10%?
All thoughts appreciated...
@VC
Yes PPP maybe has more opportunities but the opportunities on other websites are of better quality. Anyway affiliate program only one factor (bu a huge one for me) why I quit PPP.
Here is why. I am an affiliate first and then blogger. If I had referred 8 leads to let say Lending Tree I would have had about $500 in my pocket. On the par with other affiliate programs I work with PPP is giving me the least incentive.
Also, I think they care more about the advertisers than the bloggers. I understand that, that's how money are being made in this world. But they need to listen once in a while to an "average Joe" like myself.
Another thing is this. If you see what the top bloggers have earned collectively since PPP went live you will see that amount is under $200,000 - in my opinion this does not justify multi million funding, I would be a little worried if I was an investor.
I do like the company and have defended them on one occasion after reading some really stupid stuff on TechCrunch. Now I just think the TechChrunch negative reviews of PPP was a part of big publicity stunt.
Dan I did not realize it was you when I answered above. Since you probably see or get in touch with Ted, why don't you pass onto him this post? ;)
I know I am just toying with you.... I am too small of a fish for you guys. ;)
I will definitely share this feedback. Ted and I have discussed RMP many times and the conversions need to be streamlined. No arguments there. There is a lot of opportunity on the PPP affiliate side and feedback is being heard.
I was surprised about your take on the opps side though. PPP has the most advertisers in the industry, and even if you didn't like marketplace opps that's no reason to give away 100% markups on your Advertise page. PPP Direct doesn't require you to remove yourself from other marketplaces, but makes the process more trusted/efficient for you and sponsors. Give the PPP Direct widget a try, even if just side-by-side with others...
I am not sure if paid reviews are for me. The RPM button was promising for a "viral" sign ups. I have had an opportunity to get one deal via PPP Direct.
As opps go, Sponsored Reviews has some advertisers that are willing to pay bigger money for the reviews.
What I do not understand about the sign up process, and that no one takes an action about it, is the fact that PPP may loose some great bloggers, unless I am being cheated and those referred by me are already writing paid reviews. In either case, PPP should fix it or eliminate their affiliate program.
Here are my current stats to give you an idea:
Regular Referrals: 20
Review My Post Referrals: 40
Total referrals: 60
Total hits: 258
Total income: $600
Ah, but here's the issue of PPP's amazingly crappy conversion. How many of them are still pending? Answer: ALL OF THEM! That's right, since May I've sent them 60 referrals and not one has converted into a payment of any sort! And these are real people who signed up. I know, because the only place I ever advertised PPP was on my blog.
I've made good money with referral programs over the years and have to rate PPP's to be the absolute worst I've ever used. Without a doubt.
Shine on,
Aaron
I think they should have never implement affiliate program in the first place. I though that at least regular referrals are converting for some one, but your comments indicates to the contrary, or that the bloggers you have sent them are not that excited about opportunities available to them because your referrals will qualify as valid when the new blogger takes on the opportunity and has his post approved or something like that....
I hope they read posts like this as well and make adjustments for their own good.
I've requested greater reporting beyond "pending" and I know the team is working on a variety of site/affiliate enhancements. At the end of the day PPP is paying for active referrals (not just curious signups), but just getting more granularity than "pending" would help understand status and allow affiliates to encourage conversion themselves.
I'm intrigued by your focus/expertise on referrals (as opposed to PPP's core business) and would love to get your prioritized top 5-10 suggestions for making PPP affiliate programs better. If interested, shoot me your thoughts at dan*at*inflexionvc*d0t*com. And, yes, Andy I'd love yours too for an affiliate expert triumverate of input. No promises, but I'm interested in the wisdom...